Firewalla Feature: Target Lists

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    sk0rp10

    I am testing the latest beta which supports target lists editing/creation on the mobile app. Whilst it is now possible to add IPs/domains to a target list when creating a new rule, it doesn’t seem possible to “migrate” existing single IP/domain rules to a target list (new or existing). Would you be willing to consider adding also this functionality?

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    Ross

    It is GREAT that you can mute alarms based on target lists! This is only true for personal box target lists. You can define target lists at the MSP-level, but:

    - you cannot select an MSP-defined target list when creating a new setting; and,

    - the MSP UI does not display target lists correctly when you view the alarm settings

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    Alex

    I have here one question too. Not fully understand how it works in practice.

    E.g. I have added 2 lines to block my SmartTV from sending out ads stats:

    alphonso.tv
    *.alphonso.tv

     

    Questions:

    1. Are these considered as duplicates and it would be enough to set "*.alphonso.tv" which will also block "alphonso.tv"?
    2. What about a case of xxx.xxx.alphonso.tv? Will the line "*.alphonso.tv" block this as well or I have to go deeper and define *.*.alphonso.tv?
    3. Are there known issues for target lists? Because I still can see uploads to these targets (rare but still)...
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    Firewalla

    @alex

    1. These are duplicates. *.alphonso.tv should include everything including alphonso.tv

    2 It should include xx.xxx.alphonso ....

    3. when you see upload, tap on the flow, if you just see small number of bytes get send out and just one one, likely it is just linux accounting traffic problem. 

     

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    Yuri N

    Hi, I would love to be able to have comments next to each whitelisted item. I whitelist any school or education-related websites for my kids and block everything else, so my main whitelist now has about 160 items. Problem is - I don't remember why I added certain hosts, so, when my kids no longer need a certain web site, I have no easy way of identifying its corresponding hosts and removing them, so the whitelist hygiene isn't great. 

    This is especially important, because many web sites / services require you to add multiple domains, and often times, just looking at the hostname on the whitelist, it's hard to remember why it is there. 

    I would love to be able to either have a free form "comment" field, or perhaps the name of the service / web site that each host is related to.

    Thanks

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    Yoav freiberger

    I've noted this before- I think you'll be amazing, instead of having to manually enter a limited set of domains and keep them up-to-date, Use link to known block lists, such as the ones used in sinkholes like pi hole or AdGuard Home, all available in firewalla syntax, with automatic updates, where the systems pull the link every so often.

    It's not only replacing the need for pi-hole, etc, and provides far more benefit. currently lists are target list are limited to 200 entries, due to the concern that overtime false positives were aggregate. however, These lists are constantly updated , there would be little risk in Maintaining large number of domains.

    this would provides a unified view and granular control that sinkhole, which requires turbo DNS to intercept hard coalded DNS to be active, allowing to view queries coming from actual client versus Firewalla DNS ip, fully leveraging the hierarchy, providing unified view and granular control.

    unlike AdGuard Home etc., different upstream the servers could be applied for different clients, including VPN client,  allowing upstream DNS server to be VPN provider through tunnel, impossible with sinkhole. 

    Instead of Firewalla having to manage and probably pay for specific lists, they would be free and private, and huge value add.

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    wrtboy

    what is the proper way to enter this url on the target list?
    https://sites.google.com/view/iogames/home

    i tried different ways but still getting target is invalid.
    sites.google.com/view/iogames/home
    *.google.com/view/iogames/home
    sites.google.com/view/iogames/*.*

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    Anthony van Orizande

    @YoavFreiberger, I assume your comment was a suggestion.

    I strongly agree with the suggestion to allow Target Lists to auto-populate directly from externally hosted links.  It would significantly improve the value of Target Lists and remove the need for a DNS-based solution like pi-hole.

    In addition, DNS-based solutions don't help at all when raw IP addresses are used to bypass DNS lookups.

     

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    Phil

    I recommend changing the text of the crypto list to be more clear and concise.

    Crypto List
    This Target List consists of known cryptocurrency mining sites and can be used to block cryptocurrency activities. 

    The way it reads now, it sounds like you're saying crypto mining sites are bad, but they aren't. Per the site that hosts the list, "Crypto / cryptojacking based sites
    Can break normal “good” crypto sites." This is focused on malicious crypto-related sites and the list does not block legitimate crypto sites nor activities, as your statement suggests.

    This could probably be fixed by adding the word "malicious" and removing the word "mining" (because it's really the wallets they are after whether one mines or not) so that it reads something like

    "This Target List is used to block known malicious cryptocurrency sites."

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    Ross

    I would love the ability to create and manage the target list completely from the app without requiring the web interface for initial creation. With that change, the advanced feature of target lists becomes more powerful for simple app users, while more advanced users can use the web interface.

    Is there a way to create a target list with an API?

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    Beau D'Amore

    https://docs.firewalla.net/api-reference/target-lists/

    I wrote an app that updates my <20 TLs with ips/urls I get from blocklists online.
    Chat GPT should help. Just paste in these examples.

    You still have to manually link them to your Rules.

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    Ben

    Is there any way to create custom alarms based on a target list without also blocking? For example, “Device” is accessing “target IP/domain” but still allowing the flow. This would be very useful.

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