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    M

    Ya my Wifi 6E APs using all 3 bands and passing 2.5gb of traffic (physical port limit) only hit around 15w of power draw too.

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    Firewalla

    Power usage depends on the antenna used. A 4x4x4 WiFi 7 (or 6E) uses a lot more power than 2x2x2

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    Firewalla

    There are always little things that need to be done before it ships. 

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    Andre

    Firewalla

    So you guys finally certified the thing 😁

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    Firewalla

    These things do take a while. I don't think we have the final paper yet, but soon. 

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    Firewalla

    Simpler ears for the Gold Pro. (We will likely send out a survey on this early May)

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    Derek Seaman

    Please do black/yellow color scheme. White looks pretty bad. 

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    Veli Pekka Nousiainen

    @firewalla Please do White color scheme. black/yellow looks pretty sad.

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    Eibensl

    Black and yellow... if the color scheme is still up for discussion

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    Andre

    Safety has more priority, discuss more about new features can be added

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    Stefan Sava

    Finally someone sane @Andre.
    Guys the design really doesn’t matter all that much, it’s the functions and reliability.

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    Robert Kobbeman

    Nobody wants looks to take priority over functionality, but there does seem to be a lot of suggestions ignored in this thread.

    No reason a company can’t make something look good as well as perform.

    I’m gonna wait until a “rev b” (or whatever) is made that addresses concerns throughout this thread.

    I still believe this thread, advertised as “help us design the 10g, was created after the specs were locked in. Too many people asked for things that were immediately dismissed.

    Regarding the color. I hate it too. In a rack full of black/dark components, that white box would really stand out. Not in a good way. The whole look speaks “toy” and not “professional.”

    My standard ending remains… I love my Firewallas, so please take my comments constructively.

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    Stefan Sava

    You’re most likely right on the specs being locked in before this thread was created. It kinda seems like they wanted validation strictly for the chosen specs and disregared everything else !

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    Andy

    Just like Kickstarter, they were validating interest, design, and getting pre-orders so they don't need to go raise capital from investors to make the product.  They did take input, reply back, and went from 4GB to 8GB RAM which I'm happy with.  They are making a product that needs to fit the most needs of the most people to be viable at a certain price point which they were upfront with many times.  They are doing a great job in my view.

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    Stuart Munro

    I agree a subscription is still worth the effort $7/month or $75 a yr pre-paid and this should help I happy to pay it like that k what is out there for $100/yr… hands down best device I have used switched from opnsense.

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    M

    I don't think subscriptions would go over well or get them many sales. Even ones that do have a sub like Eero the people who bought it hate that, and get very mad when Amazon locks away another feature they had behind the subscription each time they do it. While this product doesnt compete with Eero exactly, its primary competitor is Unifi and that doesnt have a subscription for around the same feature set. Nobody would want to move away from Unifi (like I am) to go to Firewalla if they start having to pay monthly fee for something that had for free already.

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    Derek Seaman

    They already do a subscription...it's called MSP. I pay for it and like the value add. I think they should focus #1 on config backups #2 Enhance MSP to entice more to pay for it. 

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    Veli Pekka Nousiainen

    monthly $$$ ? ! => SWITCH to Unify

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    mikehuxley

    I would pay monthly fee if I knew it would keep the company in business. Everyone these days wants ongoing services for free. The only way for this is ads. Is that what you all want? Ads to appear in the Firewalla app??

    You all want ad blockers, as you hate ads, yet you don't want to pay a subscription. You realise how silly that sounds right? 🤔 🤣

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    Robert Kobbeman

    That is the problem with its cloud-based design. I don’t like Firewalla being hooked into the cloud for two main (and big) reasons:

    1. It is an ongoing cost. The profit from the sale of a Firewalla can’t cover the cloud costs forever.
    2. I don’t like Firewalla having to connect to the cloud. It is ironic that a firewall cannot be blocked from the internet. This is a big security risk in my eyes.

    Regardless, I have three Firewalla devices and love their features.

    I see subscriptions as being inevitable and I would support that. Even with a subscription, I still think their features beat the competition.

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    Firewalla

    @robert

    For a modern firewall / IDS / IPS security device to work, it needs the latest and greatest security intelligence. That intelligence needs to be updated, and at times, some intelligence may stay off your device due to its dynamic / size nature.

    Now, if you block the cloud (blocking this intelligence), you will have a nice router and a simple firewall. 

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    Ram!

    @Firewalla,
    Can you suggest on your marketing team to make another round for people to buy the pro, with the current price but with a coupon so you’d have a chance to get more orders in ?

    Will be win-win to everyone 

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    Firewalla

    @Ram! Unfortunately, the coupon is for the launch only. Given what's happening around the world today, the pre-order price will likely move up more in the near future.

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    Ram!

    Ok, well appreciated!

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    mikehuxley

    @firewalla

    Do you guys look for Malware within the network flows? Is this even possible?
    I'm sorry for what might sound a silly question.
    Or is it a case of not looking for Malware per se, rather than Malware type of activity via the IPS engines?

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    mikehuxley

    Apologies for the off topic question

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    mikehuxley

    @firewalla

    I here people talking about a firewalla switch that you are possibly looking at doing, but I don't see a forum discussion regarding it. Is there a page on it or somewhere I can sign up to as I would be very interested in a 16 port desktop version

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    Andre

    mikehuxley

    I don’t know about discussion 
    but 16 ports is acceptable but with the condition that all ports are Poe, or 24 ports if only half will be Poe

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    Firewalla

    I just made a link, if any of you want to contribute to the switch https://help.firewalla.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/28643907379091-Help-us-make-the-Firewalla-Switch

    This is very likely something interesting to look at after the access point.  Here is that link https://help.firewalla.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/27584001015315-Help-us-make-the-Firewalla-AP

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    Firewalla

    Update:

    • We are targeting beta in the middle to late July. As usual, this will be the final board and beta software, and I think the casing may be done manually rather than using a mold (you likely can't tell the difference). These units are fairly expensive to build, so quantity is limited. 
    • Beta signup survey and general rack mount survey will be sent in early May. 
    • Gold Pro software is getting tuned. We will likely increase the limits on many things with this unit. It may take 1 to 1.5 months to get this ready and release to beta.

    FYI, this is the unit we used during the ISC-WEST show

     

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