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    Firewalla

    Derek Seaman The initial release will be what's listed. We will explore other configurations in the future for sure. The only issue with a high-density unit is the number of available ACL entries for accounting and access control; 

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    Derek Seaman

    firewalla Understood. BTW, I really like the half width design of the Netgear M4300-16x switches. I have two, and for my home network I stack them vertically in a mini/narrow rack that's 10" wide. But in an enterprise, there's a mounting kit two mount two side by side in a normal 19" rack. Love that flexibility. I'll be keeping my M4300-16x switches until Firewalla has a 16 port 2.5G offering. 

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    John Harrold

    I'll probably get 3 of the 10Gs initially. I have a cheap 24 port switch that I want to replace and I have enough room in my rack. This will be my birthday gift to myself. 

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    Andre

    Try to work with MikroTik.

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    Troy Dampier

    Has any specs been produced on these switches or performance metrics?  What is the throughput in switching capacity? Is it non-blocking as in full line speed through a switch chip and if so what is that rate? Forwarding rate? Will it have both a CPU and Switch Chip?  If so, what are the models? How much RAM/Storage? Most importantly will it also require VLAN 1 for management like the AP7's?   Thanks

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    Geo

    Yes I’d also like to leave a deposit. I’ve been waiting/needing a vqlan switch to go with my gold and 3x ap7s so I can connect my other switches to that one. I like to at least get 1 to bridge the gap for now and hate to miss out.

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    Firewalla

    Here is an early image of Switch X (10G) and Switch SE (2.5G). We are still gathering materials for the first build, and given what's happening in the world, things are much, much slower than usual. (We are hoping to get at least one unit out (beta) in July, and if we are lucky, we will get two)

    Reference price is >300 for SE, and >600 for 10G. Final price will likely be higher (hopefully not much) due to CPU / memory / emmc shortage, and price increases in transportation, PCB, and even the outside metal cage.

     

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    Eric

    So both those switches look like a white label made by Trendnet.  I am good with that manufacturer

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    M

    They look beautiful

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    Derek Seaman

    Ya the reviews on the Trendnet TPE-7124SBF are pretty good. It of course has a fan due to the PoE++ load, but Amazon review describe it as a low whoosh and not like some enterprise screaming switch. 

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    Ali Alsaleh

    Any chance there will be larger port capacity switches coming in the near future? I'm sitting at 36 ports in my home right now and would likely run 1 x Switch X and 4 x Switch SE to get my capacity. 


    Secondly, if someone like me buys 5 switches should we run the SFP+ ports as a ring or each switch back to the core? 

    Third, what is the width of the SE? Can 2 of them sit side by side on a shelf in a standard 19" rack even though they are not mountable?

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    Firewalla

    We can't change any of these models due to the unusual situations with AI and the world. So it will like be either both units, or one of the units ... We are hoping for both ... 

    If you create a ring, then STP will break one of the links ... do you intend to do that?

    SE is wider than 10 inch, you can't place them side by side. 

    Only the X is rack mountable. (it will come with ears ... unless we have a iron shortage coming up ...) 

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    Eric

    Firewalla,

    What 10g SFP+ cards are you using to connect/communicate to the switch(s)?  Thanks

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    msmssm

    Do you have a plan to sell long ears or rack mount kit for SE to make it rack mountable?

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    Firewalla

    Eric We test with optical (Single Mode and MultiMode), DAS, RJ45; Most of us prefer MultiMode and Single Mode ... they make our rack look colorful :)

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    Firewalla

    msmssm we can ask our vendor to make one and sell it if enough people want it. Since there is no iron shortage yet ... we ask our ODM to focus on the real box for now. 

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    Ali Alsaleh

    I would buy rack ears for the SE as well and hopefully for a 19" rack size. 

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    Michael Stachowiak

    I would hate to have to pay shipping again for rack ears after the fact.

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    John Harrold

    How wide is the SE? Can a FW gold sit next to it in a standard 19" rack? If so, it might becool cool to 3d print something that can sit on tray to look something like this:

    https://firewalla.com/collections/firewalla-products/products/firewalla-gold-rack-mount

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    Firewalla

    Switch SE is wider than the Gold Pro, you should be able to put it next to a gold (plus/se). Only problem is these units are hot when loaded, so you need to worry about heat. (SE is fanless. X has a fan)

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    john oconnell

    Firewalla Switch 2.5G (Switch SE) Price > $300

    • 8x2.5G RJ45 with PoE+
    • 2x10G SFP+
    • Not rack mountable will it be app controled 
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    Firewalla

    Yep, app controlled, and fully integrated with rest of the firewalla/s; MSP will likely be updated to show the same 

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    Robby

    I'll certainly be getting 2 of the 2.5G units 😀

    There's one simple detail that I'd like to see, which is the Firewalla flame logo next to the name. My AP7s don't have it and it makes the Firewalla logo on the front of the units look very plain. It feels like a missed opportunity to add a little colour.

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    Firewalla

    Our designers want to stay low profile :) the flame is catches too much attention for sure

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    Lestrod Gould

    Maybe I missed this detail but will the switches also have CLI access for configuring or can you only configure them from the GUI?

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    Firewalla

    Switches will be configured via the Firewalla App. See https://help.firewalla.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/28643907379091/comments/52088628573075

    If you are using the firewalla paid MSP interface, shortly after the release, you can also configure it there.

    There is no plan for a cli interface. Any reason you need this? we been trying to avoid cli since we started. 

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    snovvman

    Take my money already!!

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    Lestrod Gould

    I probably will be getting the X for my Core Switch and was wondering if a CLI option would be available. I have several Cisco Switches and as a Net Eng it's much quicker and easier for me to automate updates and changes using CLI. Do you have a timeframe for release?

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    Firewalla

    The switch-x is a very capable core switch with 4 SFP+ ports.  

    We are trying hard to avoid the CLI interface. It is nice if you work with it daily; otherwise, even if you're the creator of the CLI, it's still hard to remember how to use it. 

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    Lestrod Gould

    Is expected release in July. I have MSP so will I be allowed to configured Switch via API?

     

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