Firewalla Gold SE (2x 2.5Gbit + 2x 1Gbit) Pre-sale Updates
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Update: Pre-Sale ended, Gold SE is now orderable/ship immediate from https://firewalla.com/goldse
To celebrate the 6th anniversary of our first-ever product launch, we’re excited to introduce the Firewalla Gold SE!
Introduction Video: https://youtu.be/qftDMHPjBfY
The Gold SE is our answer to your requests for a Firewalla that is fast enough to handle the Internet of the future while still being economical enough for everyday home networks. With 2 x 2.5Gb ports and 2 x 1Gb ports, the Gold SE can get you the most out of your connection without sacrificing affordability. We hope you’re as excited about it as we are!
The Firewalla Gold SE Pre-sale will start at 8 AM June 12th, 2023 (Pacific Time). Please sign up before June 9th to get an additional early bird discount coupon
Tentative shipping date is December 2023
The Firewalla Team is proud to bring you the Firewalla Gold SE Pre-Sale.
- 2 x 2.5Gbit Ports & 2 x 1Gbit Ports
- 4GB RAM
- Quadcore ARM CPU
- Packet Processing at 2Gbit
- Same great software as the Gold and Gold Plus
- All at an affordable price!
Pre-sale Starting: June/12/2023 8 AM Pacific Time
- Pre-sale coupon signup here: https://firewalla.com/goldse
- The extra early bird coupon will be delivered via email before the launch.
- Early bird pricing is limited; coupon use is limited.
Other Details:
- The unit price will increase closer to the shipping date.
- Tentative shipping date: December 2023
- Shipping is first come, first serve
- There will be early beta units available to test (same hardware + beta software)
Presale terms:
- This a presale, your credit card will be charged after ordering the unit.
- You can cancel your order before it is shipped for a full refund. (email help@firewalla.com)
- When the unit is shipped, you will receive a tracking number.
- All units can be returned within 30 days of receiving the unit.
Unboxing Video
FAQ:
Will there be a trade-in program?
Unfortunately no, we do not have the capability to create such programs. Pre-sales are usually the best time to update/upgrade an existing system!
Will WiFi SD work with the Gold SE?
YES!
How does the unit compare to Gold?
Other than the port speed differences, the Gold is likely to have a bit higher performance on WireGuard and OpenVPN protocols than Gold SE. (10 to 20% higher).
Gold CPU performance is a bit higher than Gold SE. If you are going to run various docker applications and don’t need 2.5Gbit port speed, Gold is a better choice.
How does this unit compare to the Gold Plus?
The Gold Plus can do LAG and get you close to 5Gbit performance. When using LAG, the Gold SE is limited to 2Gbit. Additionally, the Gold Plus can handle single port traffic between 2.3 and 2.4Gbit, whereas the Gold SE is close to 2.3Gbit download but limited to 2Gbit upload (QoS via FQ_Codel/Cake is also faster on the Gold Plus). If you are running PPPoE protocol on the WAN side, the Gold SE is limited to 700 to 800Mbps compared with Gold Plus at 1.7Gbps.
The port speed of all ports on Gold Plus is 2.5Gbps, while only two ports on Gold SE is 2.5Gbps.
If you are a power user, the Gold Plus is a better choice.
What is the pricing of the Gold SE?
The final price of the Gold SE is TBD at the moment. Like all of our pre-sale and crowdfunding, the sale price will be very good.
Will I be able to migrate settings?
Yes, you can. We will likely enhance this so more configurations can be migrated. https://help.firewalla.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015356093-How-to-migrate-data-from-one-Firewalla-Box-to-another-
Is this unit fanless?
Yes
Is a mounting plate included?
No. (there will be mounting screw holes on the back of the unit)
I have a red / blue / blue + should I upgrade?
Although these single port units are great for augmenting your network, they are not 'true' routers. If you want more great features like https://help.firewalla.com/hc/en-us/articles/4404423835795-Creating-a-Better-Network you should upgrade. (pre-sales are always the best time to get the best price)
I have a Purple; should I upgrade?
Besides the 2 Gigabit performance, If you need any of these
- Multiple ports, or a secondary WAN, Port-based segmentation
- More memory for docker containers
- More country blocks, and VLAN (unlimited country blocks and more VLAN with Gold)
I have a Gold; should I upgrade?
The Firewalla Gold is an extremely powerful unit. There is no need to upgrade if you do not need the 2 Gigabit ports (WAN or LAN).
I have a Gold Plus; should I upgrade?
No, the Gold Plus the best you can get
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Performance Updates:
Here are some quick performance tests from our sample board. These numbers will likely be optimized more before the final shipping date.
Standard configuration (3x country block + 1000 entry target list)
- Router Mode DHCP: 2.25Gbps Download / 2 Gbps Upload
- Router Mode DHCP + fq_codel: 1.7Gbps Down / 1.4Gbps Upload
- Router Mode PPPoE: 775 Mbps / 1 Gbps Upload
- VLAN to VLAN on the same interface: 2.1 Gbps
- WireGuard 350 Mbps
- OpenVPN 100 Mbps
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The tentative price for the presale is $439! If we get more signups, this price can go lower! With the launch coupon (limited use on the first day)
is $439 AFTER coupon is applied? or you mean to say people who order on first day presale could get much better deal than $439 which may be the standard price after first day (couponless sales)?
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Here is the final packaging and unboxing video https://youtu.be/b0E4bkGsGKE
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@Nociaf, the power source to the purple is USB-C, 3A. So either you can get an adapter from us, or just use your existing usb-c charger. (ours is just a simple adapter https://firewalla.com/collections/all/products/universal-plug)
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Answer a few of the common questions since this morning
1. The current price (as of now) is $429, if more people sign up before the launch, we can lower this price.
2. The launch coupon will be mailed this coming Friday.
3. the launch coupon has a usage cap, so ... buy early
4. If you buy the WiFi SD + Gold SE, we will ship both together to you.
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In terms of comparison to the Purple, is this rather similar just in a metal enclosure (minus WiFi and adding 2.5Gbps with additional ports)? From what I was able to find, the Gold SE has 4GB RAM and 4 cores compared to the Purple with 2GB RAM and 6 cores. As someone else also posted, the Wireguard performance on the Gold SE is 350 Mbps versus 500 Mbps on the Purple. Is this accurate? I was considering replacing my home Purple with a Gold SE and taking the Purple on the road with me, but it seems like a bit of a downgrade...
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I wouldn't call a purple->Gold a downgrade. These units are optimized for different things. The Gold units are all about segmentation and multi-port I/O (and expanding a bit with containers). The Purple units are for simplicity and also a bit of portability and casual use.
If you feel wireguard performance is important to you, you can just stay with the Purple. That unit does have a strong CPU (6 cores), and a much weaker I/O (hence dual port). (The Gold SE is more balanced with a quad core CPU and more PCI for ethernet ports I/O)
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Congratulations firewalla on another great & reasonable product! Satisfied owner of a firewalla gold plus and two firewalla purples here! The Wireguard VPN speed on my gold plus doesn't skip a beat and is very fast! I always have it enabled on my phone to avoid ads and other unnecessary connections. I always look forward to what will firewalla do next. Keep it up! 👍
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Sorry if this is a dumb question. I’m currently borrowing a spare FWG from a friend but he needs it back in a couple weeks. I was about to buy a FWG+ to future-proof for 2.5Gbps internet, but the Gold SE would do that and save me a decent bit of money, especially if I buy during the pre-sale.
Question is: I’ve done a lot of work configuring this loaner FWG to my liking - groups, rules, lab network, etc. Will the app on my iPhone allow me to transfer the config to a new Firewalla - be it the FWG+ or the Gold SE?
And a follow up - I plan to replace my current iPhone this Fall. Is the config data saved up my account in the cloud or is it local to the iPhone, and if so, since I have the Firewalla app included in iCloud backup, will it transfer to my new phone when I do a restore? Thanks!
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Yes, when you are installing the new unit, you should be able to migrate your FWG to the FWG-SE. (https://help.firewalla.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015356093-How-to-migrate-data-from-one-Firewalla-Box-to-another-) Please do not delete the old "firewalla" app or the icon.
The configuration is saved on your phone and the firewalla box. After you get your new phone, you can use this to pair it https://help.firewalla.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004369774-Adding-a-new-phone-to-manage-an-existing-Firewalla
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