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I hope this becomes reality VERY soon. I’m bouncing back and forth between Omada or Unifi, but I’d much rather have a full firewalla network stack because Firewalla is an awesome company and I honestly don’t trust Ubiquiti.
My requests for a Firewall AP are simple, it needs 10gbe, and please make sure the AP is fully featured. (PoE, 4x4x4, MLO, SP/AFC). No reason to skimp, go big for your first release. You can always fill in the lower end later.
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Ack, I believe it will have wireless mesh. Using 6ghz for backhaul is perfect way to make wireless faster than ethernet :)
If obstructions don't get in the way. My home has walls & floors that will block it so I suspect wired backhaul will be faster & more stable for me and some others. In essence, we'll need both options.
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Ack, I believe it will have wireless mesh. Using 6ghz for backhaul is perfect way to make wireless faster than ethernet :)
are you referencing to 6ghz in Wifi 7 or 6ghz in wifi 6? 6ghz has the wrost penetration in wifi6, and currently i am using 5G-2 unii-4 channels for wireless backhaul, and link speed is around 1700/1700 with 3 walls between 2 APs.
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Update:
We will likely white label (use an existing product instead of building our own) a WiFi 7 access point. We will start with a desktop version and a ceiling mount version two months later. This will help us focus more on software, and there will be lots of exciting new software features ...
(Will have more details once we sign and pay the deposit)
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Been using Omada APs for years and they work great. Maybe a white label option there? Love the idea of this offering btw. Please bring in as much device details as possible into the UI when this is built.
As others have mentioned VLANs for multiple LANs/SSIDs is a must.
Only downside for me is I just purchased a new WI-FI 6 AP. Any idea on timing of this release? I’m still in my 30 day return window. LOL
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For a ceiling mount WiFi 7 AP, the bottom (the side facing the ceiling) is usually a big heatsink, and the surface of this heatsink can get to 70C if fully loaded in a room >30C. Is this something you care about?
We don't think people will be touching that part since it is so high up ... but we want to know what your thoughts are.
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Heat isn't a huge problem. My current ceiling mounted AP gets hot AF! Obviously not ideal, but it is what it is. For the controller bit, are you saying these will be "SDN" and require a Firewalla firewall to act as a controller? If so, I like where you are going with this. Going the SDN route opens a lot of doors to more networking products down the road.
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30C isn’t hot enough to cook anything, but if the mounting hardware does / will allow for some adjusting distance between unit and ceiling that would make feel warm and fuzzy that the unit is cooling fine and that if I ever take it down there won’t be blistering paint. Less than 1/4 in would be preferable if mountaineering hardware is “open concept. If there is already some kind of bracket attached to the ceiling that the unit interfaces with than heat is a non issue for me.
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maybe my wishlist is asking too much for initial product:
- 2.4G 4x4/40Mhz
- 5G-1 4x4 /240Mhz
- 5G-2 4x4 /160Mhz
- 6GHz 4x4/320
- wireless backhaul MLO and AFC. ( not sure WIFI7, but in wifi6, 6GHz wireless backhaul is really bad if there is no line of sight)
- minimum 2 LAN ports, one upstream and one downstream.
- Price? ( up to $300-$400 each unit, not a concern to me)
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@Firewalla, how big do you think is the prosumer market on a ceiling mounted AP vs top-shelve?
Most people do not have the ability to mount AP's on the ceiling with concealed wires, at least not without doing drywall and painting work and I am not willing to redo my living room ceiling drywall for something as trivial as WiFi. Small businesses or finished basements with popcorn ceiling tiles, that's easy, is that going to be your primary market?
Unless these ceiling AP's can work just as good when mounted on a wall, and if so, instead of building two models, one ceiling and one top-shelve, you could just have a top-shelve cradle in which that ceiling AP can be held.
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