Gold - Slow Performance DNS?

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    Firewalla

    Try this first

    Tap on Rules button

    Tap on the top right button

    Turn on emergency access

    See if the problem goes away or not. If yes, then you may have a rule that's blocking things. If it doesn't go away, let me know, we need to help you look inside. 

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    Rez

    I am also experiencing this same issue all of a sudden with both a Firewalla Gold AND a Firewalla Red, at two different sites, on two different ISP's. I have not changed any custom settings since the installation of the Firewalla devices months ago.
    If any type of Monitoring is turned on, both networks slow to a crawl or outside stop passing traffic. Both devices starting having this issue within about a week of each other too.

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    Firewalla

    Are you using custom DNS (like pihole?) or the default? Are you running in simple or dhcp mode? or router mode?

    Try the previous instructions I have given, and see it helps by turning on emergency mode.

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    David Fry

    So we re-connected the Firewalla gold and now again we're getting sporadic slowdowns and connectivity issues.   We didn't have any issues with it taken out of the network.     My computer (at the time of this writing) is having issues connecting and it's currently in Emergency Access mode.   So it's not rules based.  

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    David Fry

    Ok I've done some testing, and the thing that is happening with the firewalla in between my router and our Wifi APs is that we sporadically get http 502 errors.    This causes the initial handshake to fail and the website not to load or authorization to fail.   After getting the 502, if I hit F5 or refresh the connection it works.  It only fails on the intial load.

    Here is a pertinent log from fiddler accessing 3 webites and my email client. All failed initially.

    Accessing Greddy.com
    40 502 HTTP www.greddy.com /products/exhausts/gpp-rs-ti/ 512 "no-cache, must-revalidate" text/html; charset=UTF-8 firefox:16096
    41 304 HTTP crl.identrust.com /DSTROOTCAX3CRL.crl 0 "max-age=3600; Expires: Wed, 01 Sep 2021 20:16:02 GMT" application/pkix-crl svchost:3160
    42 200 HTTP www.greddy.com /favicon.ico 894 image/vnd.microsoft.icon firefox:16096

    Accesssing Autoanything.com
    1 502 HTTP Tunnel to www.autoanything.com:443 512 "no-cache, must-revalidate" text/html; charset=UTF-8 firefox:16096
    2 200 HTTP Tunnel to calendar-a.wbx2.com:443 0 ciscocollabhost:8380

    Accessing summitracing.com
    1 502 HTTP Tunnel to www.summitracing.com:443 512 "no-cache, must-revalidate" text/html; charset=UTF-8 firefox:16096

    Accessing my email client (thunderbird which failed imap auth to yahoo.com)
    16 200 HTTP Tunnel to start.thunderbird.net:443 0 thunderbird:7700
    17 200 HTTP ocsp.pki.goog /gts1o1core 471 "public, max-age=86400" application/ocsp-response thunderbird:7700
    18 200 HTTP ocsp.pki.goog /gts1o1core 471 "public, max-age=86400" application/ocsp-response thunderbird:7700
    19 200 HTTP Tunnel to start.thunderbird.net:443 0 thunderbird:7700
    20 200 HTTP Tunnel to start.thunderbird.net:443 0 thunderbird:7700
    21 502 HTTP Tunnel to api.login.yahoo.com:443 512 "no-cache, must-revalidate" text/html; charset=UTF-8 thunderbird:7700
    22 200 HTTP Tunnel to start.thunderbird.net:443 0 thunderbird:7700
    23 200 HTTP Tunnel to start.thunderbird.net:443 0 thunderbird:7700
    24 200 HTTP Tunnel to start.thunderbird.net:443 0 thunderbird:7700

     

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    Support

    Can you please send an email to help@firewalla.com so that we can do further troubleshooting?

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    Rez

    I am experiencing similar issues as well. I am not running any custom rules on either my Firewalla Red or Gold. I am not running any other types of DNS devices like Pi Hole or similar.
    Only thing I have done with both Firewalla units is turn on Monitoring, and AD blocking, with no other custom settings set up on either device. I have not created any custom rules, nor am I using DNS over https. I have tried monitoring in both simple mode, and experimental simple mode.
    If monitoring is turned on at all, my network slows to a crawl, or outsight stops passing traffic out to the internet.

    Both devices were working fine for months on end (two different sites, on two different ISP's) but then they both just started having these issues all of a sudden.

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    Firewalla

    @Rez

    Are these units running in simple mode? (or gold is in router mode?) Were they connected to the same model router? Has this router updated firmware?

    When the problem happen try to do this

    ping fire.walla

    ping 1.1.1.1

    nslookup firewalla.com

    and see which one fails. 

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    goink

    Same here on Gold. DNS hangs and pages fail to load, and occasional network disconnect notices in browsers. Router mode, connected to ASUS RT-AC66U in AP mode. ASUS firmware most current for the model.

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    Firewalla

    Is the problem randomly with sites? or just a few sites? How did you test? Did you try the direction we had earlier? 

    ping fire.walla

    ping 1.1.1.1

    nslookup firewalla.com

    and see which one fails. 

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    goink

    None of those commands failed. It seems to be random.

    Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.19043.1165]
    (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>ping fire.walla

    Pinging fire.walla [ XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX] with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
    Reply from XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
    Reply from XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
    Reply from XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64

    Ping statistics for XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 2ms, Average = 1ms

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>ping 1.1.1.1

    Pinging 1.1.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 1.1.1.1: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=57
    Reply from 1.1.1.1: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=57
    Reply from 1.1.1.1: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=57
    Reply from 1.1.1.1: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=57

    Ping statistics for 1.1.1.1:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 14ms, Maximum = 22ms, Average = 18ms

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>nslookup firewalla.com
    Server: firewalla.inc.lan
    Address: XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX

    Non-authoritative answer:
    Name: firewalla.com
    Address: 23.227.38.32

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    David Fry

    Not sure it carries over to everyone else's issue.  But  I was able to solve my issue with moving the Firewalla Gold into bridge mode (transparent monitoring).    The problem initially showed itself in Simple mode (I wish there was a better explanation of what Simple mode is).    And then after switching to router mode, there were no improvements.

    Moving the firewalla into bridge mode fixed the issues.   Seems it took a bit longer for blocking rules to take effect, but it all works now.

    Still wish I had a better understanding from Firewalla as to why this issue just randomly showed up after running clean without any issues for a few months.  Then all of the sudden, dns timeouts causing handshake failures out of nowhere, and the only fix is a change in my "configuration" that was working fine before ?    Seems there should be a reason somewhere.

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    Firewalla

    @David, is your issue specific to a few sites or it is every site? I just create a ticket for you, so someone can follow up

     

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    David Fry

    @Firewalla  my issue is resolved (kind of) as I already had a ticket open.   The support team has been very responsive (save for the time differential).    The problem is we never found the culprit.  Moving to "bridge mode" fixed the issue (even though support never suggested that change).

    But here is an example of the connection issues.  Failed the first 2 times, and worked on the 3rd.

    belacyrf@DF_Home:/mnt/c/Users/David$ curl -w "%{http_code}" -o /dev/null -vvv www.workwheelsusa.com
    % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
    Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
    0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 --:--:-- 0:00:09 --:--:-- 0* Could not resolve host: www.workwheelsusa.com
    * Closing connection 0
    curl: (6) Could not resolve host: www.workwheelsusa.com

     

    belacyrf@DF_Home:/mnt/c/Users/David$ curl -w "%{http_code}" -o /dev/null -vvv www.workwheelsusa.com
    % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
    Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
    0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 --:--:-- 0:00:09 --:--:-- 0* Could not resolve host: www.workwheelsusa.com
    * Closing connection 0
    curl: (6) Could not resolve host: www.workwheelsusa.com

     

    belacyrf@DF_Home:/mnt/c/Users/David$ curl -w "%{http_code}" -o /dev/null -vvv www.workwheelsusa.com
    % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
    Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
    0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 0* Trying 192.254.236.68:80...
    * TCP_NODELAY set
    * Connected to www.workwheelsusa.com(192.254.236.68) port 80 (#0)
    GET / HTTP/1.1
    Host: www.workwheelsusa.com
    User-Agent: curl/7.68.0
    Accept: */*

    0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 0* Mark bundle as not supporting multiuse
    HTTP/1.1 503 Service Unavailable
    Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2021 12:28:03 GMT
    Server: Apache
    Retry-After: 60
    Upgrade: h2,h2c
    Connection: Upgrade, close
    Vary: Accept-Encoding
    Content-Length: 188
    Content-Type: text/html

    { [188 bytes data]
    100 188 100 188 0 0 350 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 350
    * Closing connection 0

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