Firewalla Gold as a Router

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    Firewalla

    Do you mean you have multiple static IPs or a subnet allocated to the WAN side?   And for each of the IP addresses, you want to use them with a different NAT table?    

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    Greg Parsons

    Yes.  I have 254 static (IANA-assigned) addresses assigned by my service-provider on the WAN side.  For each of those WAN addresses, I need to -- at a minimum -- be able to specify a WAN IP/port (unable to do so today) that maps to a LAN IP/port for port-forwarding.  That will handle many of my pseudo-routing needs (as a poor-man's route-table) via port-forwarding.

    I get that LAN IP/port assignment is available today, but with Gold not recognizing that I have 254 addresses on the WAN side, in the current app, I cannot specify the inbound IP in port-forwarding.

    As an example, I have public DNS records that have an email server on a WAN address of XX.XX.XX.50, and another on XX.XX.XX.51 for 2 different domains.  For obvious reasons of DNS records (DKIM, SPF records, ARP, separation, etc.) these have to be separated.  So then, I have 2 mail servers that are handing each domain.  On the internal LAN, they are 2 different physical machines; subsequently 2 different IP addresses.  Unless I can specify a port-forward from WAN XX.XX.XX.50 port 25 to LAN XX.XX.XX.125 port 25 AND a WAN XX.XX.XX.51 port 25 to LAN XX.XX.XX.126, port-forwarding is not useful.

    I get that these would be 2 distinct port-forward rules, but again, being unable to specify the WAN IP/port it's not possible.

     

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    Firewalla

    Do you also need any redundancy for your network? 

    What you have now is definitely not typical in a home or a small business.  I will forward this to our dev and see what they think. 

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    Greg Parsons

    No redundancy needed at the moment; e.g., delegating one of port 1-3 as a WAN port.  However, looking forward to that when it comes out.

    Agreed that I’m atypical as a residential customer.  I have a reasonably-sized data center in my house (independent power, cooling, etc.), and have always carried a /24 static address space since 1995.  

    That said, I have to believe that there are many more than one of ‘me’ that have more than a single static (IANA public) address.  Moreover, many small businesses that I frequent have a similar setup (2+ IANA-assigned public IP addresses), which makes it difficult for me to be an all-in advocate for Firewalla Gold as a standalone router solution.  

    This configuration is probably much more prevalent than you think in the small/medium business (SMB) world.  Further, many SMB owners that I’ve talked to, have 1G reciprocal circuits — meaning that they probably have Ethernet encapsulation, rather than MOCA.  So, Ethernet cable plugged directly into the Gold (BTW, that’s what I tried in my own home network, and it worked *great* until I ran into the limited routing / port-forwarding problem.)

    Again, Gold works really well in Simple mode, and is a great — and highly responsive — substitute for the replaced ‘Blue’ model.  There are simply some basic capabilities that are needed to sell to a SMB / Advanced-SOHO market; e.g., advanced routing and/or pinholes and multi-dimensioned port-forwarding.  

    Also the inability to specifiy the local LAN DNS space as anything other than ‘.lan’ is a problem for many of these SMBs — which I’ve described in another thread.  

    So then, absent these capabilities, I cannot be an advocate for the Gold in ‘router’ mode.  Great product — and I’ve been an early adopter — but in the current environment, it’s simply a faster “Blue”.

     

     

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    Greg Parsons

    Just wondering if any progress has been made -- or is planned -- to support multiple static addresses on the WAN-side interface of the Gold, along with appropriate segmentation and routing rules, whilst getting the full benefit of Gold's capabilities ...

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