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- Building a Zero Trust Network with Firewalla
- Firewalla Tutorial: Segmentation and Microsegmentation with AP7
- Early Access hardware is the FINAL production unit
- AP software in BETA.
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Compatibility Requirements:
- Gold, Gold Pro, Gold Plus, Gold SE: Must run Beta software.
- Purple, Purple SE: Must run Early Access software.
- Firewalla must operate in Router mode.
- Firewalla App must run Beta software.
- Availability: USA customers only.
- Shipping: 7–37 days post-order, in waves (FIFO).
- Order Limit: Soft limit of 3 units per order; exceeding this may delay shipment
- Early access signup ends 12/30/2024 at 11:59PM PST.
- A coupon (small discount) will be sent to early access sign-ups before 1/2/2025.
- You do NOT need to sign up to order.
- We started an AP7 Community Page, please post your questions here
- Full Integration with the Firewalla Security Stack
- Zero Trust Network Architecture
- VLAN Segmentation and Microsegmentation Support
- Easy to install, managed anywhere
- Wi-Fi 7, faster and more reliable
- Wi-Fi Mesh with Ethernet or Wi-Fi backhaul
- Firewalla running in router mode is required
- 8 Spatial Streams, tri-band, low-power indoor unit
- 10Gbit + 2.5Gbit Ethernet Interface
- Early access and beta are available only in the USA. (EU and other countries TBD)
- Price for beta units with discount: $299 to $349
- Final price after 1/20/2025: We don't know; it depends on the tariff
- Tentatively, early access/beta sale starts in early January 2025
Key Principles of Zero Trust
- Segmentation and Microsegmentation: Divide your network into smaller segments to limit the lateral movement of threats.
- Least Privilege Access: Grant users and devices only the minimum access necessary to perform their functions on the network.
- Continuous Monitoring: Continuously monitor and verify the security posture of all users and devices.
We usually run a pre-sale cycle, but due to the political changes (new President), it is not possible for us to pre-sale and build units without knowing possible tariff impacts. Instead, we’ve used the sale proceeds from BFCM to pre-purchase a batch of units.
The AP7 units should be built soon and be available for ordering. We plan to split the orders into groups: (This plan is still tentative, we may also merge beta+early access together)
- Early Access (for our earliest supporters at the lowest price, available mid- to late-December 2024. Must be running Firewalla Gold (v1 & v2), Gold SE, Gold Plus or Gold Pro in router mode)
- Beta Access (about 1 month later, available mid-January 2025. Must be running Firewalla Purple or Gold series units in router mode)
- Production (to be decided after 1/20/2025)
- For details please refer the the status update section below
All units will have the final production hardware, software will be in early access/beta.
- Limited number of units available
- Limited to 3 units per customer
- Early access unit will be using early access software
- Beta access will be using beta software
The Firewalla AP7 Ceiling Mount will come a couple of months after 1/20/2025. It will seamlessly integrate with the FWAP7 Desktop units.
Spec
- Triband 2.4Ghz 2x2, 5Ghz 2x2, 6Ghz 4x4
- 8 Spatial Streams, 320Mhz channel support 6Ghz
- Network Interfaces: 10Gbit RJ45 + 2.5Gbit RJ45
- VLAN
- PPSK+WPA2 Support (Personal Key)
- Mesh with Ethernet or Wi-Fi backhaul
- Dimensions: 5.43 x 3.15 x 7.48 inch
- Item Weight: 1.4 lb
- Power: 30W
- Compatible with and Required: Firewalla Gold / Firewalla Purple in router mode
Status Update: 12/10/2024
- The initial batch of APs is nearly complete.
- We plan to ship some units by air right around or after Christmas to reduce shipping costs.
- Shipping optimization is under consideration to keep the beta/early access pricing closer to $299.
- Apps version 1.64 and 1.980 are targeted for "early access" release during the week of 12/16. These updates will include exciting new features and code support for the Firewalla AP.
- Sales are expected to begin in early January, with units shipping within seven days of order placement. (The exact date will be confirmed next week.)
Status Update: 12/17/2024
- The Firewalla AP7 is coming very soon!
- We are aiming for 1/7/2025 9 AM PST as the Early Access purchase date, but we'll let you know if anything changes! (if the shipment is late, then this date might be pushed back to 1/14/2025)
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@firewalla
Thanks. It’s all dependent on our homes’ sizes, walls, etc.
For example, in my 3k sq foot home I have 2 asus et12s running, one at each end of the home on the main floor. That provides very good coverage (400-500 Mbps) throughout all three floors.
My assumption is I would replace those two units with firewallas. If they’re priced similarly to other high end consumer router/AP solutions (like these asus, decos, netgear etc) I would expect at least that type of coverage. These (consumer grade) competitors do provide expected square footage coverage, hence my question.
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My company uses Ruckus Unleashed ceiling-mounted access points for all new construction homes. Layouts are heatmapped using Ekahau heatmapping software.
The Ruckus APs are inserted into the ceiling using the Paramount AP mount
https://accesspointmount.com/
We'll occasionally use wall-mounted APs in retrofit situations or places where we can't get to the ceiling.
Ruckus is by far the most rock-solid AP we've used in the residential market, and Unleashed is an extremely easy to use management platform. -
@adamZell I've used Ruckus R650 (WiFi 6) and currently have Rucksu R770s (Wifi 7) at home. I used Unleashed with the R650 and Ruckus One with the R770s. Ruckus, due to their proprietary antenna design, certainly are by far the most stable and performance APs money can buy. The WiFi 7 firmware was a bit bumpy, but now it's great.
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@firewalla The Ruckus R650s are the best value, even new, can be had for a few hundred each. Very few people actually need WiFi 7. Yes the R770s are expensive, but it's aimed at enterprises. If the Firewalla APs can perform similarly to the R650s and in a similar price range, that would be a win.
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@Andre, sounds to me like Firewalla was making a point about the cost IF they added every possible Wi-Fi access point feature that’s on the market.
If they are white-labeling another manufacturer’s AP, then they need to charge their cost +30% for profit, plus the cost for developing and maintaining their SDN.
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I don't think we will charge $1000 ... our market segment is a niche between that and consumer units, so we need to carefully balance the cost (hardware + software, developers are not cheap + maintenance). Enough, you get a good unit that grows with you (as with our other projects) at a reasonable cost (enough to feed our developers)
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Good news! The contract with ODM has been signed, and we are now working out the details (costs) and finalizing the software. The first unit will be a desktop unit, available only in the USA (and later to countries supporting CE). The ceiling mount unit will come later.
Can't share the hardware details until we are ready. On the software side, there will be deeper integration with the firewalla, with the AP controllers running inside the firewalla box locally.
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This is upsetting that the USA will be only initially targeted, The UK uses CE so @firewalla how long of a delay are we looking at until you remember a world exists outside of the US.
I do understand that there are requirements for radios etc, but I won't lie this is disappointing, we get the leftovers at the end of the meal.
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