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- Building a Zero Trust Network with Firewalla
- Firewalla Tutorial: Segmentation and Microsegmentation with AP7
- Early Access hardware is the FINAL production unit
- AP software in BETA.
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Compatibility Requirements:
- Gold, Gold Pro, Gold Plus, Gold SE: Must run Beta software.
- Purple, Purple SE: Must run Early Access software.
- Firewalla must operate in Router mode.
- Firewalla App must run Beta software.
- Availability: USA customers only.
- Shipping: 7–37 days post-order, in waves (FIFO).
- Order Limit: Soft limit of 3 units per order; exceeding this may delay shipment
- Early access signup ends 12/30/2024 at 11:59PM PST.
- A coupon (small discount) will be sent to early access sign-ups before 1/2/2025.
- You do NOT need to sign up to order.
- We started an AP7 Community Page, please post your questions here
- Full Integration with the Firewalla Security Stack
- Zero Trust Network Architecture
- VLAN Segmentation and Microsegmentation Support
- Easy to install, managed anywhere
- Wi-Fi 7, faster and more reliable
- Wi-Fi Mesh with Ethernet or Wi-Fi backhaul
- Firewalla running in router mode is required
- 8 Spatial Streams, tri-band, low-power indoor unit
- 10Gbit + 2.5Gbit Ethernet Interface
- Early access and beta are available only in the USA. (EU and other countries TBD)
- Price for beta units with discount: $299 to $349
- Final price after 1/20/2025: We don't know; it depends on the tariff
- Tentatively, early access/beta sale starts in early January 2025
Key Principles of Zero Trust
- Segmentation and Microsegmentation: Divide your network into smaller segments to limit the lateral movement of threats.
- Least Privilege Access: Grant users and devices only the minimum access necessary to perform their functions on the network.
- Continuous Monitoring: Continuously monitor and verify the security posture of all users and devices.
We usually run a pre-sale cycle, but due to the political changes (new President), it is not possible for us to pre-sale and build units without knowing possible tariff impacts. Instead, we’ve used the sale proceeds from BFCM to pre-purchase a batch of units.
The AP7 units should be built soon and be available for ordering. We plan to split the orders into groups: (This plan is still tentative, we may also merge beta+early access together)
- Early Access (for our earliest supporters at the lowest price, available mid- to late-December 2024. Must be running Firewalla Gold (v1 & v2), Gold SE, Gold Plus or Gold Pro in router mode)
- Beta Access (about 1 month later, available mid-January 2025. Must be running Firewalla Purple or Gold series units in router mode)
- Production (to be decided after 1/20/2025)
- For details please refer the the status update section below
All units will have the final production hardware, software will be in early access/beta.
- Limited number of units available
- Limited to 3 units per customer
- Early access unit will be using early access software
- Beta access will be using beta software
The Firewalla AP7 Ceiling Mount will come a couple of months after 1/20/2025. It will seamlessly integrate with the FWAP7 Desktop units.
Spec
- Triband 2.4Ghz 2x2, 5Ghz 2x2, 6Ghz 4x4
- 8 Spatial Streams, 320Mhz channel support 6Ghz
- Network Interfaces: 10Gbit RJ45 + 2.5Gbit RJ45
- VLAN
- PPSK+WPA2 Support (Personal Key)
- Mesh with Ethernet or Wi-Fi backhaul
- Dimensions: 5.43 x 3.15 x 7.48 inch
- Item Weight: 1.4 lb
- Power: 30W
- Compatible with and Required: Firewalla Gold / Firewalla Purple in router mode
Status Update: 12/10/2024
- The initial batch of APs is nearly complete.
- We plan to ship some units by air right around or after Christmas to reduce shipping costs.
- Shipping optimization is under consideration to keep the beta/early access pricing closer to $299.
- Apps version 1.64 and 1.980 are targeted for "early access" release during the week of 12/16. These updates will include exciting new features and code support for the Firewalla AP.
- Sales are expected to begin in early January, with units shipping within seven days of order placement. (The exact date will be confirmed next week.)
Status Update: 12/17/2024
- The Firewalla AP7 is coming very soon!
- We are aiming for 1/7/2025 9 AM PST as the Early Access purchase date, but we'll let you know if anything changes! (if the shipment is late, then this date might be pushed back to 1/14/2025)
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@J: for your current ASUS access points, if you know what their power output and gain are, by band, and you know what Firewalla's desktop AP's power output and gain are, by band, then you can get a good idea as to what kind of coverage the Firewalla AP7's will provide in your home; 2.4ghz / 5ghz / 6ghz radio waves are still 2.4 / 5 / 6 ghz radio waves and will have the same characteristics, regardless of the AP they are coming from if power and gain are the same on both APs. A radio signal put out at 26dbm but from a low dbi gain antenna is not the same as a 26dbm signal put out from a higher dbi gain antenna; if you have a high gain antenna you can set it to lower power and still get the same / better connectivity to a client through an obstruction.
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@Firewalla To clarify on timing, the AP7 will not be available for early access or beta sale until the first or second week of January and then they will ship within 7 days and take up to 7 days in transit to get to the customer?
I saw in the updates at the top of this post that you plan to ship some units by air right around or after Christmas to reduce shipping costs - is this referring to shipping the devices from the manufacturer to your warehouse? -
We did not quote the 7 day shipping/transit time, it will be faster than that for sure.
Yes, we are airlifting all units in bulk from manufacturing facility to california before 1/20 ... and that process will start once the shipping price drops (likely soon). We are optimizing to get them before 1/20, and also keep the price not too far above $299 ... not easy, but possible. Since there may be other people doing the same before 1/20, in case congestion occurs, we will likely ship in small batch until we run out the first batch
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Do you know how many units will be available in the presale coming up in a few days? Trying to figure out how quick I need to be on the order. Also is the limit 2 or 3 per house? Or 1? Sorry if this has been asked already. Lots of chatter/excitement on this thread! Congrats again on the AP7!
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@Firewalla: Good afternoon. Do you have the specs on the antennas (max power setting / gain)? Information would be helpful for both the tabletop units and ceiling mounted units for coverage planning; i.e. I'm really looking forward to migrating from TP-Link Omada APs to Firewalla APs, just would like to determine quantity and locations.
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Hi Firewalla
As a current Firewalla customer, loving what you do and would be happy to support you more as the new AP7 looks awesome BUT…You only made the early release Firewalla AP7 point available to US based people, what about Australia and other regions. Yes, I know you are waiting for certification but we ( your customers) are supporting you with helping you with customer info needs and purchasing your products but we are prevented from the early release.
Here is my prediction, please correct me if I am wrong, First round gets like a $299 USD AP7. But by the time other regions come around mid-next year , your market price is Say $399 or $499USD. So no benefit to other regions at all. Then there are the shipping , currency and import fees (as no local distributors), so it turns into a much more expensive proposition for those outside the US.
Now the new UniFi Wi-Fi 7 PRO AP 2x2 Mimo Wi-Fi 7, Tri-Radio 2.4GHz,5GHz & 6GHz PoE+ 2.5 GbE in Australia shipped is $273USD here equivalent…. So you lose the early adopters, then the mass market here says well you are too expensive. Now we know you have a better product but it’s simple economics and customer focus.
So may I suggest the following as a fair and equitable thing would be to keep track of those on the EOI list from other locations and give them a discount for the same price as the first round in the US. That way you get your units certified for other markets, there is amazing good will for early customers, you make more product advocates worldwide as you are more than just a US based company, and Jerry knows he has down the right thing. How say you?
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@robert, thank you for the feedback. Given we are a software company, it is pretty expensive to build software that's unique, we always try our best to price these units fairly, and at the same time, the price gives us room to add even more features in the future, same way as we are doing with the firewalla product line.
At the moment, we do not envision pricing outside of the USA to be cheaper, unless USA tariff explodes after 1/20
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Understood on the AP7 not supporting PoE; was curious about the ceiling version. Understandable that details aren't available yet. I'm looking forward to seeing more details next year on that one.
On a side-note: Ceiling mount version seems like it could be a good time to launch a compatible switching product if development and conversations are far enough along? Especially if they will be 2.5/10 GbE PoE powered. Many folks are likely going to need to upgrade their switches / power injectors if that ends up being the case.
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@Richard, the ceiling-mounted version will likely be a 10Gbit PoE+ ( we may also make it a 5Gbit PoE+). This will get finalized before 1/1/2025 (we hope)
We will likely start looking at switches in the second half of 2025; we have extensive expertise in this area. However, making an affordable switch will require too many variations, so this exercise may be much longer, or we will find a good partner to work with.
For now, we will focus on wifi first, and worry about the switch later.
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