Will there be a firewalla with 10gbe ports?
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On the fan question, mine would go in an equipment rack with other not-silent stuff. So I’m not concerned about it being totally quiet or fanless. Quieter is generally better, but I wouldn’t be expecting silence and having a fan is an expected tradeoff for a higher end piece of gear.
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You’re probably getting a “power user” set of answers here - who are more likely to have a big rack of equipment already sitting somewhere and not be trying to put it on the office bookshelf - since we’re the ones that care enough to post in the forums, are trying to use the bleeding edge services to the fullest, etc. If you asked a different set of buyers if they care about it being silent, you’d probably get different answers - but I’d argue that’s the feedback to think about for v2 of the 10 Gb unit a little bit down the road.
That will be more important thought process for a more mass market version of the thing, but time that to come when the adoption of those faster services is greater and thus the market for a 10 Gb firewall is larger, plus hopefully by that point the tech has gotten better/cheaper to the point where you can do a silent version, you’ve learned more about what works for people and what doesn’t, etc.
For now, sell us the v1 that makes some of these acceptable (to us) compromises and use us to learn what you need to learn to make the more mass-market v2 a little later on. :)
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No PPPoe and prefer a at least an RPM fan or option to swap out for a fan of you choice as mine resides in the living room and I generally swap the fan out if I can an use noctua fans only.
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PPPoE No problem at all. 10G at fixed IP or DHCP here. I think it need to have an adaptive fan just to avoid problems since I assume the power users as Matt also mentioned are fewer and your general user base might not have full rack setup with little care for noise level. I.e rather slightly higher price for more built in heat sinks + fan active on demand vs complaints from the masses because of noise. Would be my take.
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No clear dates yet. But, if enough people are interested in it (pre-order), we can probably push our vendor to work hard and deliver the 10G units by Christmas. The pricing of parts is still an issue, but if enough people pre-order, likely everyone can get a good deal on it.
I am asking my management if they will allow me to get a signup sheet going next week. This likely will help us move things faster. (and also get you early bird discount)
(And yes, there is a prototype running 10G, waiting for pricing to stabilize)
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Here is our official thread, and and also signup link https://help.firewalla.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/25574346848275-Help-us-make-the-Firewalla-Gold-10Gbit-Unit
(with permission) I also included our 10gbit prototype; this usually is where a customized board come from
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That’s great, hope you can find a cost effective 10G platform.
Would love to see a “software only” purchase option from Firewalla, with a few validated platforms you approved. Something like this? https://store.minisforum.com/products/minisforum-ms-01 -
There is no way to guarantee quality and consistency from third-party vendors. Especially these units you can get from aliexpress, or HK ... they are a hit-and-miss
Instead, we use reputable ODM/OEM vendors, they will ensure the board has quality parts, quality assurance, and compliance.
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I can’t help but wonder why one would like to have more than 2 interfaces on a firewall. On my FWP the LAN interface is connected to a 10Gbps switch, there my NUC and NAS have SFP+ links. Why increasing on Firewalla the footprint, energy consumption, pricing, R&D, and QA when anybody serious will always have switch + VLANs?
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