Upgrade the Firewalla Gold

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    Shawne Beeson

    So I removed the back panel on the Gold, and there is no HDD (M.2) installed, there is a slot that says Mini-USB, Is the 32GB SSD soldered on board. Is this SSD eMMC? I know how to install a M.2 drive. How would i go about moving the data around if I wanted to install a m.2 HDD. 

     

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    Firewalla

    The 32GB is embedded in the system. 

    We have a write up and what's inside the unit, you can take a look https://help.firewalla.com/hc/en-us/articles/360050777594-Firewalla-Gold-Inside-The-Box

     

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    Shawne Beeson

    What about my other questions?

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    Firewalla

    We have not officially installed an additional HD.  But, in theory, if you just did that, the onboard disk should boot first and then you probably can mount the HD as an additional storage device.   Which means, you may not need to move data to the new HD. 

    Memory is the same, you should be able to upgrade.  The N3160 is an embedded processor, so its memory is limited to 8GB. 

    //disclaimer, we do not encourage modifications to hardware, in case anything goes wrong, we are not responsible for that action.

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    Shawne Beeson

    No worries, I know I am responsible for any damage, I am been voiding warranties for a long time :)

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    Firewalla

    Okay, let everyone know how it goes if you decide to mess around with this.   And if anyone reads this in the future, please let us know if we should continue put these connectors inside ... and not 'cost-cutting' them out in future releases.  

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    Michael Bierman

    I think I’m o.k. for now, but someday I might consider updating the RAM. What is the max RAM Gold can handle and what is the spec for the RAM? Can it handle 8Gb?

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    Ram!

    @Firewalla,
    Cutting cost? Aren’t we at the end paying for the hardware? If there’s a possibility to make it better why the restrictions?
    Firewalla Gold is a computer and it’s easy to upgrade like any laptop.. I wonder why laptop vendors doesn’t void warranties because their clients upgraded their RAMs..
    I understand some people aren’t tech savvy, but some are they like to tinker and make their devices performs better.
    I also understand, ppl could open tickets for incompatibility issue while upgrading their Rams for example. But you could ask them to put back the original RAM and resume with the troubleshooting..

    I wish if you consider, adding external devices like Wifi or allow to add an Ethernet over the USB to gain more ports.. Just thoughts 💭
    You can look for hardwares that would be compatible and has a superb performance and sell it as add-ons for the FWG.

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    Firewalla

    These are the restrictions from our hardware manufacturer, or we have to pay more.   

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    Ram!

    How your hardware manufacture knows if we upgraded the RAM?
    You would, they won’t..

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    Andy brown

    Upgrading RAM to 8GB is simple and mine works like a charm. I’ve also installed a second internal HD, that requires a little more technical know how. There is a post on the the forums that explains how to do it. But I do understand Firewalla’s position about customers tinkering inside.

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    Ram!

    Andy Can you point me to that post ? I’d like to see the work if you may :)

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    Ma Ar

    Ran into this thread on a search, and I would like to add that the FTC states that a company voiding a warranty or stating they will void a warranty just by opening the device is prohibited by law (Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act).

    Source: https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2018/04/ftc-staff-warns-companies-it-illegal-condition-warranty-coverage 

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    Firewalla

    Thanks @Ma Ar

    "Unless warrantors provide the parts or services for free".  Firewalla provides the service and parts and is free if your unit is under warranty. 

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    Charles

    **I am not actually replacing the RAM module in my Firewalla, just in case that's not allowed. The below is simply a hypothetical situation....**

    Well, I just bought the following: https://www.crucial.com/memory/ddr3/ct102464bf160b

    Fingers crossed it works / it's the correct one. I'm going off a reddit article here.

    I've been reading through the thread and would be perfectly fine paying an upcharge to get an 8gb model shipped. Personally, I would've paid up to $50 extra to avoid doing what I'm doing. Suggested marketing could be that the 4GB model is for home users and the 8gb model is for business, commercial, power user applications. Personally, I host a secure file transfer site using my firewalla, along with an entire household of internet devices (over 75) with a constant through-put. 

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    Lynk

    How did the install go Charles?

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    Charles

    @Firewalla admins / moderators if you're watching, the following only happened in my dreams. I would never dare to breach or void a warranty by opening the box. Also, that image that you see -- yeah that's your imagination ;) 

    This model of RAM is the correct one. I purchased through Amazon, but you should buy directly from crucial if you can to avoid Amazon taking a 15% fee. https://www.crucial.com/memory/ddr3/ct102464bf160b

    It took about 5 minutes, simply remove the screws from the bottom, gently push the two sprockets holding the ram in place to the side, allow the stick to slide upwards to about a 45 degree angle and remove it. Re-insert the new stick in the same, but reverse manner of course. DO NOT TOUCH THE GOLD PARTS. AND WASH YOUR HANDS FROM ANY OILS PRIOR TO TOUCHING ELECTONIC COMPONENTS IN GENERAL!

    Put the screws back on, plug it back in, and off you go. I'm now able to maintain a constant throughput of about 700Mbps without it crashing or lagging. I also noticed the app load times are much quicker. Like I open the app and bam. I would like to see future Firewalla's come with an option to purchase a premium model. Personally, I would have been more than okay with paying an additional $50 for a premium Gold. Please remember to upvote this post if you found it helpful!

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    GamerZer0

    I also did the "memory upgrade"...

    Does the Firewalla "use" it? 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

    Does it affect swapfile usage? 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

    I am monitoring 👀... I am only using normal Firewalla functionalities... for now

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    Charles

    Edit: You're using Htop... nice

    @GamerZer0
    What command did you use to get to that pretty display of memory?? I've been using 'free' and it displays as pure text....

    But you bring up some valid points. Although I notice what seem like "improvements" in performance, I have yet to see the Gold go above 3000000 units of memory 

    This is my usage under low stress, I'll have to look again when my secure file transfer servers spin up on Monday morning. 

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    GamerZer0

    I used the htop command... I remembered seeing it in one YouTube video... so I googled around and found it.

    Some useful links below...

    https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/htop-command-in-linux-with-examples/

    https://linuxtogether.org/htop-command-explanation/

    https://www.linuxfordevices.com/tutorials/linux/htop-command-in-linux

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    Kurtis Bickhaus

    I also upgraded to 8GB.  Quick photo guide for the curious techie.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/firewalla/comments/tlxx01/fun_with_fwg_8gb_ram_upgrade/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 

     

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    Peter Haas

    Little hint for those looking at this with a newer FWG, the memory specs for the FWG Rev B are not the same as the Original Rev A.  Rev B takes DDR4 2400Mhz memory, so the RAM mentioned and linked above will not fit! If anyone wants an 8GB stick of DDR3, let me know!!

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