feature request - firewall config backup and restore

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    lee

    that's a different use case scenario. that's for migrating from a live firewalla to another live firewalla.

    the scenario i had in mind is to recover the firewalla from a config file or backup file.

    picture a remote office using blue, it goes down. it's then reflashed and paired to the mobile app of the administrator for the site. he now needs to recreate all the rules and allow the devices again. something that could be avoided if the app had an export config feature to dropbox or google drive which could be imported back into the reflashed blue.

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    Firewalla

    In this situation, as long as you have the app that paired with the old unit available, you can "restore" the config to a new unit.   (So the firewalla need not be 'live', as long as the app is there, the config is saved on the app storage)

    Anyway, we do understand config dump, it is on the list for sure.  

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    Mstormo

    Where are we on the 'config dump' feature? It would certainly be a benefit to be able to store this dump before trying to configure new services/setups through SSH, for example with the new and more capable Gold version.=

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    Firewalla

    The configuration dump is unlikely to be triggered through ssh.  The entry point to configure the system is via the app or the web page.  

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    Mstormo

    That'd be fine. It would just be good to have a backup _before_ rumargin around on the device and potentially wreaking havoc through SSH ;-)

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    AzagraMac

    Do you know anything about this functionality?

    I have quite a lot of rules in my hand... that could well be facilitated as you do in Pi-hole by means of a link and you put all the domains you want to block.

    Besides, if you have to restore the Firewalla, it doesn't migrate to another one... you have to start all over again.

    These basic things, I do not understand how they are not raised.

    Do we keep waiting for improvements like this, or do we look for options that give them to us?

    My hardware:
    - Firewalla Blue, v1.971 (gf77d20b)
    - Firewalla App, v1.45.92

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    Firewalla

    We are likely to create this feature in the next two firewalla releases (1.46 or 1.47).  We will add more items to be stored.  At the moment (and this can change) this item is on our higher priority list. 

     

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    Danny Natale

    Did this feature make it into .46 or .47?

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    Firewalla

    It is already in 1.47, a lot more items will be restored. 

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    Support Team

    Please see this doc for config migration.

    https://help.firewalla.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015356093

     

    And you can either migrate from one box to another or migrate to the same box after factory reset.

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    Danny Natale

    Thanks, it says I am not authorized to view the page.

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    Firewalla

    try again please. someone (not me) forgot to publish the changes

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    argentcove

    That link just tells how to migrate. I still don't see a way to backup my current configuration before making changes. I understand that it should be on my phone, but if I made my changes from my phone, then would there be a backup of the config before the changes? 

    Am I missing something? 

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    Firewalla

    @argentcove, this feature is more of a "restore" to a new unit.  

    As of your use case, is it more like a complete restore from a point in time? or you want restore to any configuration (previous) ?

     

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    Andy

    I think the option to backup/restore a point in time would be valuable, maybe an auto backup when changes are made, and keep x amount of revisions.

    There may be times many changes are made, and you end up breaking something and cannot remember what the config was prior. Also having the option to export a backup just in case Firewalla is damaged, a restore can be done to a new unit.

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    argentcove

    The auto-backup idea is interesting, but I wanted a way to save my complete config to a backup that I could restore at any time. I thought that was what this thread was all about?

    Any other decent router lets you backup the config to a downloadable file. After powering up my FWG for the first time, I was super disappointed that this feature was missing. It makes me less confident in making any significant configuration changes to my network.

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    Firewalla

    @argentcove, possible to post the requirement to https://help.firewalla.com/hc/en-us/community/topics/115000356994-Feature-Requests- 

    This way our developers can look there and see if they can do something. But in general, saving configuration should not be an issue, and unfortunately, it can only be saved in the app. Restoring can only happen if the unit is reset. 

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    EngNezar

    I agree with you @Lee backup and restore should be a default feature for any device.

    wish it'll be released soon.

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    john burton

    I agree ... I had to re-flash my purple today .. and then re-build all my rules....

    It would be so good to have a way to backup my config so that if I have to re-flash again, they could all be restored.

    Please add my name to the list looking

    Thank you.

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    Firewalla

    After you reflash, you should get an option to restore from your settings. see https://help.firewalla.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015356093-How-to-migrate-data-from-one-Firewalla-Box-to-another-

    (make sure you don't remove the old instance from your app before pairing)

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    David Parish

    I agree with needing a simple way to be able to restore settings without a nuclear “reset” of the device. As I have stated before, my Asus routers have this feature as does every other firewall software. TBH, if my Asus router was good at dual wan functionality ( it has the capability but it doesn’t work correctly ) I would not have gone with Firewalla Gold. My Asus RT-AC86U with Merlin firmware and added scripts will do everything my FWG will do for a lot less money. Don’t get me wrong, I like the FWG but really guys, a simple ability to establish a restore point seems like a no brainer.

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    Firewalla

    Do you want multiple restoring point? or just one? if it is one, there is the last successful configuration already stored in the system. 

    Are you Planning to do restore of previous configurations? 

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    Alan kam

    I agree with David Parish. We need a simple way to restore. In addition, if I’m not mistaken backup only store in apps. Is there ways to download to somewhere to save it?
    Some people do lost their phone without backup. I simple configuration backup file store where else is highly recommanded.

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    David Parish

    Can you elaborate where we can find this “last successful configuration” ?

    The first thing I do when setting up a router is to save a known good baseline configuration. This has saved me more than once when I have gone down a “rabbit hole” trying to do tweaks or solve an issue. It is also comforting knowing if I screw things up, I can restore to a good working config. 

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    EngNezar

    Basically, any configuration is a set of line code, then it has been stored on a file somehow with an extension of *.cfg or *.backup ...etc. we need a way to download and save such a file then in case something happened and we need to restore the last running config, then we can just upload this simple file and boom done.

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    Firewalla

    The last successful configuration is a state saved in the app itself. It is not exposed. It can be applied after you reset the device, and this is how the current migration works. 

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    Firewalla

    @EngNezar, in case this can be exported to a file, it will not be human-readable, and likely have many restrictions on what can be restored, is that okay? 

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    Chris Larson

    Currently the config is stored in the app storage. If a person clears cache and data for the app, which is in the instructions to join beta, would you not lose your config? We should be able to export the config to a different storage location and be able to roll back to at least a couple previous versions of the config ideally.

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    Kurtis Bickhaus

    I should be able to reflash myfirewalla, and restore config via USB in a matter of several minutes.  I dont know why this thread goes back so far.  I thought surely I was scrolling down to see a solution.  

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